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NotNatty.shop: what it sells, what the labels leave out, and what buyers report

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Vendor active also NotNatty.shop, Not Natty, High Stim Pre Workout, highstimpreworkout.com notnatty.shophighstimpreworkout.com
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  • Is there an identifiable legal operator: a registered name, a jurisdiction, an address that resolves?

    no legal name or address on any page; the registrant is a privacy proxy; contacts are a support address and a proton.me address

    Evidence: [6][3][4][11]

  • How long has it operated, by evidence: first archive capture, domain registration, oldest attributable post?

    selling since at least July 2025, under this name since December 2025

    Evidence: [8][10][13]

  • Does it publish third-party certificates of analysis for what it sells?

    the home page says every batch is tested; no certificate on any of 77 archived pages

    Evidence: [2][33]

  • Where there are results, do they agree with the label, the marketing and the reported effects?

    no certificate and no independent test of any product was found, so nothing could be compared

  • Are contents and amounts stated on the product?

    the site's panels omit the stimulants buyers read on the tubs

    Evidence: [20][22][25][28][31][32][33][49]

  • No disease claims, no 'safe', no borrowed botanical names for synthetic compounds?

    'for research purposes only' beside pre-workouts; a testing claim with no certificate

    Evidence: [14][2][21]

  • Pattern of complaints about orders not arriving, long delays, no tracking?

    one report of a parcel marked delivered and not received, in 48 threads reporting receipt

    Evidence: [40][43]

  • Pattern of complaints about wrong, inert, contaminated or mislabelled product?

    a 7-OH product packed inside tubs of two pre-workouts in autumn 2025

    Evidence: [7][47][48][49]

  • Chargebacks refused, refunds unanswered, processors dropped?

    card processing shut down in November 2025; orders cancelled and re-priced in July 2026; chargeback penalties in the policy

    Evidence: [11][47][46][4]

  • Warning letters, seizures, lawsuits, attorney-general actions, platform bans?

    no warning letter, suit or court record under either name

    Evidence: [53][54][52]

  • Is there any attempt to keep minors out?

    a click-through 18+ interstitial

    Evidence: [1]

  • Does it say what the legal status of what it sells is, honestly, where it ships?

    the legal status of DMAA and DMHA is never stated; import compliance is assigned to the buyer

    Evidence: [15][14][11]

Operating since
at least 2025-07-09 (oldest Reddit post naming highstimpreworkout.com as the seller of a product; the domain was registered 2024-11-21 and showed a launch page)
Where
a California telephone number (area code 661) on the December 2025 home page (notnatty.shop home page, archived 2025-12-09); ships internationally by UPS International Expedited; buyers in Australia and the UK report receiving orders (shipping policy, archived 2026-03-13)
Presence
r/stimjunkiepreworkouts u/gymdadreviews (self-described spokesman, not the owner)
Verified
every quotation checked against its document on 2026-10-06; 54 sources

What they sell, and what we think is in it

  • Deliverance (Supreme Sports Nutrition) Pre-workout and sports supplements designed for individuals familiar with structured training routines and supplementation familiarity CaffeineDMHA (Octodrine)Rauwolscine (alpha-Yohimbine) one reviewer suspects DMAA as well
  • Demi God Pre-workout and sports supplements a next level pre workout crafted for serious athletes CaffeineDMHA (Octodrine)DMBA (1,3-Dimethylbutylamine)NoopeptRauwolscine (alpha-Yohimbine)N,N-Dimethylphenethylamine
  • Above All Pre-workout and sports supplements a balanced high performance pre workout CaffeineTheobromineDMBA (1,3-Dimethylbutylamine)
  • Lava Fuel Pre-workout and sports supplements designed for individuals familiar with structured training routines and supplementation familiarity Caffeine the panel lists 150 mg of caffeine and no other stimulant; buyers rank it among the strongest products they have used
  • Hyper Dose Pre-workout and sports supplements designed for individuals familiar with structured training routines and supplementation familiarity Caffeine unnamed citrus derived alkaloids
  • Hyper Power Pre-workout and sports supplements designed for individuals familiar with structured training routines and supplementation familiarity Caffeine7-OH (7-hydroxymitragynine)
  • Venom and IR8 Pre-workout and sports supplements designed for individuals familiar with structured training routines and supplementation familiarity CaffeineDMAA (1,3-Dimethylamylamine)
  • Thermo Shred Other designed for individuals familiar with structured training routines and supplementation familiarity DMAA (1,3-Dimethylamylamine)
  • Compound Pre Pre-workout and sports supplements CaffeineTheobromineHuperzine ASynephrine
  • Rattle Pre-workout and sports supplements designed for individuals familiar with structured training routines and supplementation familiarity Caffeine kanna (Sceletium tortuosum) extract
  • Focus AF Nootropics thoughtfully formulated dietary supplement designed to support mental clarity CaffeineHuperzine A
  • peptides (unnamed) Peptides pure form peptides no peptide named on any archived page

Molecules named in this dossier

The long read

Who they say they are, and what the record says

NotNatty sells pre-workout powders, fat burners and capsules from the domain notnatty.shop. Its about page gives its history in one line: “Formerly HighStimPreWorkout, now NotNatty.shop”.[1] The home page in June 2026 described the stock as “Curated performance supplements from independent brands”.[2]

No page names a company, a person or an address. The terms end with “If you have any questions about these terms and conditions, please contact us” and give no name to contact.[3] The refund policy gives a support address at the domain and nothing else.[4] The registry record shows notnatty.shop was registered on 6 May 2025 through Tucows.[5] The registrant is a privacy service in Toronto, listed as a numbered customer.[6] Buyers on Reddit know the owner by a first name, Alex. The account that calls itself the shop's spokesman told one thread that the owner is not on Reddit and that “his only point of contact is through the broker”, meaning the owner does not deal with the manufacturers directly.[7]

The predecessor domain, highstimpreworkout.com, was registered on 21 November 2024.[8] Its first archived page that day said “launching soon”.[9] The oldest Reddit post found that names it as the source of a product is from 9 July 2025, describing a pre-workout from the “same manufacturer in Florida as ashes. From highstimpreworkout.com”.[10] By December 2025 its home page gave its only contact as “contacthighstimpreworkout@proton.me”.[11] The move to the new name was announced on Reddit on 31 December 2025: “Formally High Stim pre.com is back in (notnatty.shop)”.[12]

The first archived capture of notnatty.shop is from 9 December 2025.[13] It is not the shop. It is a one-page site reading “For research purposes only. Not for human consumption” above the words “Pure form peptides”, with a telephone number, “Tel 661-565-1755”, and an email address at another domain, “info@sarmsupply.com”.[14] Area code 661 covers Kern County and the north of Los Angeles County in California. That is the only location on any page. The shipping policy says “All international orders ship via UPS International Expedited”,[15] and a buyer in Australia reported an order that “arrived on my door step here in Australia” a week after it was placed.[16]

The shop has no Reddit account of its own. Of 434 mentions of the shop on the two pre-workout subreddits, 107 are by one account, u/gymdadreviews. It posted “As the official notnatty.shop spokesman” in February 2026[17] and “I have no ownership in Notnatty” in April.[18] In May it announced a product of its own: “The owner of notnatty.shop and I teamed up to create something new and different”.[19] It answers complaint threads on the owner's behalf, and several of the cited threads below include its replies.

What they sell

The archive holds 56 product pages from January to June 2026. 49 of them show a supplement-facts panel as text. 25 open with the same sentence, which on the Deliverance page reads “is designed for individuals familiar with structured training routines and supplementation familiarity”.[20] The Compound Pre page's description begins with the markup of a chatbot conversation that was pasted in along with the text, including “data-testid conversation-turn-12”.[21]

What the panels say. Most of the panels list amino acids and caffeine and nothing else that acts as a stimulant. Several carry an unnamed blend. Deliverance lists “Energy Focus Blend 300 mg: natural and synthetic caffeine sources, citrus-derived botanical extracts, plant-based alkaloid compounds”.[20] Demi God lists “Plant-Based Energy Support Matrix 75 mg, Adaptogenic Performance Complex 50 mg, Natural Alertness Blend 50 mg”.[22] Hyper Dose lists “Natural Energy Botanical Blend 300 mg: green tea extract, citrus-derived alkaloids, plant-based polyphenols”.[23] Lava Fuel's only stimulant is “Caffeine (from natural sources) 150 mg”.[24] Above All lists “Caffeine Anhydrous 300 mg, Guarana Seed Extract” and theobromine.[25] Hyper Power lists “Caffeine (from caffeine anhydrous, di-caffeine malate) 225 mg”[26] and Venom “Caffeine (from natural & synthetic sources) 200 mg”.[27]

What buyers say the tubs say. Buyers who held the products describe different labels. Of Deliverance: “Looking at the label, it looks like a pretty standard 2-amino preworkout”.[28] 2-amino is the community's name for DMHA. A reviewer who sampled it went further, “it's a DMHA DMAA pre”, calling it speculation from the effect.[29] Another described the onset of alpha-yohimbine: “it hit when I was on the toilet from the alpha yo”.[30] Of Demi God, a reviewer reading the tub remarked that “the amp citrate dmba is higher than the dmha”; AMP citrate is a trade name for DMBA. The same reviewer credited the effect to the noopept: “part of why I feel like this one hits a nice spot is the Noopept”.[31] None of these compounds is on the site's panel for either product. Of the twelve-sample box, one buyer wrote “above all has dmba” and another that “a lot of sites can't list the 'real' ingredients due to payment processor rules”.[32]

The spokesman gave the same reason in February 2026: “Many pay processors will not work with small companies that sale things claiming dmha and dmaa”. He added “The owner of notnatty.shop is working up a catalogue link that will contain all labels and offline products”.[33] No such catalogue was found in the archive.

DMAA by name. On the predecessor store the product names said it outright. The December 2025 home page listed “Thermo Shred with 1,3”, and 1,3 is DMAA.[11] In September 2025 a commenter called the store “the last bastion of real 1-3”.[34] The Venom sold there was a look-alike of other brands' Venom, which one buyer said “looks like a Chinese knock off”.[35] One reviewer of a sample box wrote of the gap between label and effect that the “label definitely doesn't match the experience”.[36] Another said of the predecessor store's stock, “I guarantee you that what's on the label for hyperdose, force of nature, ir8 etc are not actual labels”.[37]

Other compounds the panels do name. Caffeine is on almost every panel. Compound Pre lists “Citrus aurantium extract 75 mg”, the bitter-orange source of synephrine.[21] Rattle lists “KannaEase Sceletium tortuosum extract 100 mg”, which is kanna.[38] Focus AF lists “Huperzia serrata extract (standardized for huperzine A) 50 mcg”; see huperzine A.[39] Theobromine appears on Above All and Compound Pre.

Peptides. The December 2025 page offered “Pure form peptides” under the research-use line.[14] No peptide is named on any archived page, and no later page repeats the offer.

What buyers report

Method. Reddit was searched through PullPush on 5 October 2026 for “notnatty”, “not natty shop”, “highstimpre”, “highstimpreworkout” and “highstimpreworkouts”, every query paginated to the end.[40] “Notnatty” is also gym slang, so results were kept only from r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, r/Preworkoutsupplements and r/highstimpreworkouts where the text names the shop. That left 295 threads and 434 mentions between April 2025 and October 2026. Every mention was read, and the full text of 210 threads. 48 threads contain a first-hand report of receiving an order from an account other than the spokesman's. Thread ids for every count below are in the research file.

Delivery. 40 of the 48 receipt reports praise the order or the service. A typical one: “I could've sworn it was for 12 samples, but he hooked me up with 19”.[41] Two describe a wrong item that was replaced, including “they sent me the wrong flavor of Dystopia, which they have since corrected”.[42] One describes a parcel marked delivered and not received: “Preordered 3 tubs of deliverance through notnatty that were either stolen or delivered to the wrong address”. Asking the shop for help, the buyer “was completely ghosted”,[43] and the shop's policy is “We are not responsible for stolen packages”.[4] After the spokesman forwarded the thread, the buyer posted “They reached out to me via text and we're discussing a resolution to the matter”.[43] No other non-delivery report was found.

Unanswered email. Three buyers between April and July 2026 reported no reply. One wrote “Sent an email just wondering about a possible shipping time, no response”;[44] another, “doesn't respond to my e-mails”.[45] The spokesman's answer each time was that mail sent in reply to the order confirmation does not reach the owner.

Cancelled orders. In July 2026 the shop cancelled and refunded orders for a discounted sample box, then relisted it at a higher price. Five accounts in three threads report the refund. One thread opens “Cancelled my order to charge more”.[46] The spokesman's explanation in the same thread was “There was like 175 orders in 30 mins”, which he said broke the shop's link to its shipping platform.[46]

What came in the tubs. In October 2025 a buyer posted the same warning to both subreddits: “Highstimpreworkout.com is allowing/putting '7oh' samples in people's orders”.[7] 7-OH is 7-hydroxymitragynine, a kratom alkaloid with opioid activity, scheduled in some states. The spokesman replied that “he did not put this in the product it is the manufacture”.[7] A month later he confirmed what was found and where: “the 'CEO cocktail' found in the bottles of Game On and Hyper Power wasn't added or requested by him”.[47] The spokesman said the owner had decided against opening the tubs to remove it. In July 2026 another buyer recalled “the CEO cocktail that came in a tub of hyper power”.[48]

Samples. Samples come in small funnels marked by hand. One buyer reported in August 2025 that “the majority of the black sharpie wore off so I don't know what I got”.[49] Another bought the same product from NotNatty and from a second shop in 2026 and reported “The one from NotNatty came kind of clumpy and it looked blue”, where the other was a red powder.[50]

Three buyers reported feeling little or nothing from a product. No thread reports a refund refused.

Promotion. The discussion is shaped by people with a stake in it. One account wrote a quarter of the mentions and co-owns a product sold only at the shop. Most of the regular reviewers post with discount codes, and several received product from the owner to review. When the predecessor store hid its stimulant products behind a login in September 2025, the spokesman explained “You will now need to create an account”.[34]

Lab results

The June 2026 home page says “Every batch rigorously tested for purity and potency”.[2] All 77 archived pages of notnatty.shop were searched for a certificate of analysis, a laboratory name or a test result. None was found. The catalogue of labels the spokesman promised in February 2026 was not found either.[33] No independent test of any product sold here was found, and /lab-results on this site holds none.

Payment

The predecessor store's home page in December 2025 read “Payment processing has been shut down. New site will be up quickly”.[11] Until the new site opened, orders went by email, and the spokesman wrote that the owner “is accepting Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal”.[47] In August 2026 the spokesman wrote “Apparently not natty shop got reported to PayPal”.[51]

The refund policy begins “All sales are final”.[4] It says “Refunds are not guaranteed and are issued solely at our discretion” and “Filing a chargeback without contacting us first is considered a violation of this policy”, with account termination and blacklisting listed as the consequence.[4]

Regulatory and legal

FDA's warning-letter index and a site search of fda.gov returned nothing under notnatty, highstimpreworkout or sarmsupply on 5 October 2026.[52] CourtListener's federal docket search returned no record for “notnatty”[53] or for “highstimpreworkout”.[54]

The platform record is about the spokesman rather than the shop. In August 2026 the account wrote “I was reported to Reddit this week for the sale and promotion of illegal substances”, over its sample giveaways.[51]

No page of the shop says what the legal status of DMAA or DMHA is anywhere it ships. The shipping policy leaves that to the buyer: “It is the customer's responsibility to ensure that ordered products comply with local import laws before placing an order”.[15] The only age check is a click-through screen: “You must be over 18 years old to visit this site. Please verify your age”.[1]

What we could not find

  • Whether the labels match the contents. With no certificate and no independent test, there was nothing to compare. This is the unknown in the scorecard.
  • The operator. No business registration was searched, because no legal name appears anywhere to search for. OpenCorporates refused the query without an API key.
  • Reviews off Reddit. Trustpilot answered both domains with a bot challenge. ScamAdviser hides its score behind a button for humans. Neither was read.
  • The predecessor store's product pages. The archive holds only highstimpreworkout.com's home page, so its catalogue is known from that page and from Reddit.
  • sarmsupply.com. The domain on the December 2025 page was registered on 9 September 2025. Nothing else connects it to this shop.

References

  1. notnatty.shop about page, archived 2026-01-25 — Wayback Machine
  2. notnatty.shop home page, archived 2026-06-13 — Wayback Machine
  3. notnatty.shop terms and conditions, archived 2026-02-10 — Wayback Machine
  4. notnatty.shop customer support and refund policy, archived 2026-01-25 — Wayback Machine
  5. RDAP record for notnatty.shop (registry) — GMO Registry
  6. RDAP record for notnatty.shop (registrar, registrant contact) — Tucows
  7. "This has to be addressed... Major issues the practices of highstimpreworkout.com", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2025-10-26 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  8. RDAP record for highstimpreworkout.com — Verisign
  9. highstimpreworkout.com home page, archived 2024-11-21 — Wayback Machine
  10. "Let's see some July4th hauls", r/Preworkoutsupplements, 2025-07-09 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  11. highstimpreworkout.com home page, archived 2025-12-08 — Wayback Machine
  12. "BIG NEWS Formally High Stim pre.com is back in (notnatty.shop)", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2025-12-31 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  13. Wayback Machine capture index for notnatty.shop — Internet Archive
  14. notnatty.shop home page, archived 2025-12-09 — Wayback Machine
  15. notnatty.shop shipping policy, archived 2026-03-13 — Wayback Machine
  16. "Notnatty.shop", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-05-22 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  17. "Big deal starting today!! (Through Saturday)", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-02-15 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  18. "Big restock inbound!!", r/Preworkoutsupplements, 2026-04-29 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  19. "Not a collab but a creation", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-05-09 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  20. notnatty.shop, Deliverance product page, archived 2026-01-25 — Wayback Machine
  21. notnatty.shop, Compound Pre product page, archived 2026-06-13 — Wayback Machine
  22. notnatty.shop, Demi God product page, archived 2026-02-10 — Wayback Machine
  23. notnatty.shop, Hyper Dose product page, archived 2026-01-25 — Wayback Machine
  24. notnatty.shop, Lava Fuel product page, archived 2026-01-25 — Wayback Machine
  25. notnatty.shop, Above All product page, archived 2026-03-13 — Wayback Machine
  26. notnatty.shop, Hyper Power product page, archived 2026-01-25 — Wayback Machine
  27. notnatty.shop, Venom product page, archived 2026-01-25 — Wayback Machine
  28. "Quick Deliverance Review", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-02-26 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  29. "Deliverance preworkout: pls watch... this is DMHA + DMAA", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-02-26 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  30. "Deliverance (Supreme Sports Nutrition) NotNattyShop Sample Review", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-02-20 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  31. "Demigod", r/Preworkoutsupplements, 2026-04-14 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  32. "Notnatty samples", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-09-27 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  33. "Need labels", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-01-31 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  34. "Protect our hitters at highstimpreworkout.com !!", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2025-09-30 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  35. "Am I part of the group now?", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2025-08-21 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  36. "SMASH AMF", r/Preworkoutsupplements, 2026-05-08 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  37. "This has to be addressed. Major issues with the practices of highstimpreworkout.com", r/Preworkoutsupplements, 2025-10-26 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  38. notnatty.shop, Rattle product page, archived 2026-01-25 — Wayback Machine
  39. notnatty.shop, Focus AF product page, archived 2026-03-13 — Wayback Machine
  40. Pushshift-compatible search of Reddit for notnatty, not natty shop, highstimpre, highstimpreworkout(s), run 2026-10-05 — PullPush
  41. "Shout out NotNatty!", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-07-31 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  42. "Dystopia giveaway (just pay shipping)", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-01-08 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  43. "Notnatty customer service", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-04-10 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  44. "NotNatty Going MIA?", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-07-24 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  45. "Massive sample pack from NotNatty.shop, what should I review first?", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-07-02 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  46. "I was wondering why I never got tracking information.", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-07-21 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  47. "High Stim Pre workout .com RELOAD", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2025-11-20 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  48. "Deliverance at 21g", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-07-04 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  49. "Temu Venom sample", r/Preworkoutsupplements, 2025-08-05 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  50. "Lava/ashes/nitric back on the same day?!", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-08-26 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  51. "Snake in the grass among us", r/stimjunkiepreworkouts, 2026-08-15 — Reddit — anecdotal report, not evidence
  52. FDA warning letters index (searched for notnatty, highstimpreworkout, sarmsupply), 2026-10-05 — US Food and Drug Administration
  53. CourtListener RECAP search for "notnatty", 2026-10-05 — Free Law Project
  54. CourtListener RECAP search for "highstimpreworkout", 2026-10-05 — Free Law Project
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